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";s:4:"text";s:24977:" 39. (Click to enlarge). But this should not misconstrued as anything unusual, but common practice for a company which suddenly comes under media scrutiny and wants to maintain "cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets." While there is some slight confusion over which ship he is referring to "coming from Belfast to Southampton" there is certainly no evidence here of trying to conceal the identity of the two ships. It seems those intent on proving a 'switch' have mistaken the missing bridge enclosure, the rectangular gap in the forward bulwark (painted white) for the wheelhouse. The actual triangular hole in the Olympic is much further aft than the location of the so-called 'patchwork' on the wreck. And if these researchers and historians are supposedly "in" on the conspiracy then why would they release this image at all and risk the 'truth' being known? 1 2. She worked up to 80. Under the circumstances it is perfectly logical. Damage from Olympic's collision with Hawke was more significant The above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in portholes. CourtesySteve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank? It is true that James Cameron sent a robot into the sitting room of what is called the Millionaire's Suite or Promenade Suite during his 1995 dive. This is confirmed by Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, who adds: "While it is true that some survivors such as Beesley and Chambers did speak about a port list, this was taken out of context as both were referring to April 14th. The story goes that after the sinking thirteen lifeboats were recovered, taken to New York, where the name Titanic was sanded off and numbers removed to deter souvenir hunters. LET'S SEE THE "EXPERTS" DEBUNK THIS ONE." 48. Without evidential support it is merely another concocted claim. Secondly, to propose that the Carpathia was involved in some pre-arranged rescue mission requires evidence - for which there is zero documentation or testimony. 3. Secondly, it is true that the outline of each letter was incised into the hull, and then painted in with a golden/yellow shade. 2. At least one of them would speak to someone, or at the very least have a deathbed confession and not one single report was ever made. He later served as Oxford Professor of Poetry (199499), and lectures given during his tenure in that post were collected as The Strength of Poetry (2001). PRODUCED BY AIVL, WHOI in the Government. Claim: Patchwork and braces from repair work due to damaged caused by the Hawke collision with the Olympic found in Titanic's stern wreck photographs. were being made to further increase the ships speed. the evidence that the number 400 (Olympic's number) is all over Olympic's woodwork (see more information on this here). Most agree that the Titanic split just forward of the third funnel. Crewman refused to sail on Titanic Paddy said that the guilt of Difference in tonnage 7. Regardless, the key issue with this claim - like so many - is that there is no verifiable record of this - no exact quotation, date, location, photograph or even independent testimony of the account. Hall and Beveridge note in regard to this photograph that although "the overlapped doubler is hidden behind the stowed anchor, Quite simply, while the photograph of the wreck is correct, the image of the "actual Titanic" is not - it is of the Olympic. To be able to go into that room and see that marble fireplace still sitting there This image allegedly shows 'hull plating from the wreck showing white and light grey paint showing through the black top coat'. Claim: Also, at Titanic's launch, all of the windows on B-deck were evenly spaced out, yet on her maiden voyage they were seen as being unevenly spaced, just as Olympic's were. Marble in the Sitting Room Deck plans The Abyss un film del 1989 scritto e diretto da James Cameron, e interpretato da Ed Harris, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio e Michael Biehn.. La sua realizzazione fu estremamente travagliata e si protrasse per circa due anni ad un costo mai confermato ufficialmente ma stimato in 69,5 milioni di dollari. According to a Mirror article about Southampton entitled "The City That Lost a Generation to the Titanic Disaster" (March 24, 2012) "17,000 men were without work that April" due to the coal strike. You do not need to be an expert to see that it certainly does not. Gewinner und Nominierte des Golden Globe Award in der Kategorie Beste Filmmusik (Best Original Score - Motion Picture), die die herausragendsten Leistungen von Komponisten des vergangenen Kalenderjahres prmiert.Die Kategorie wurde im Jahr 1948 ins Leben gerufen. Titanic advertising used photographs and artwork of the. But does this now mean we should treat with suspicion that there were "numerous" ships in the area when Titanic sank? 46. After the Titanic disaster this all changed. And any allegation to the contrary - of an increase - needs evidence, for which at present there is nothing but unverified speculation. In reality, Titanic's starboard B-deck windows were more narrow than the Olympic's as onboard Titanic these areas had been converted into two private verandahs and suites. It has to be admitted that this is plain bizarre and shows at what lengths some will go to try and justify a conspiracy. And that there were not binoculars on the Titanic? Additionally, they were not "in the middle of a coal strike". In discussing the claim that "Olympic was fitted with Titanics starboard propeller shaft" Mark Chirnside summarises: "There is no evidence that Harland & Wolff ever used one of Titanics propellers, or propeller blades, on Olympic; there is every reason to believe that they would have had a spare Olympic propeller in any case.". - Fourth Officer Boxhall "a little ice in the well deck covering a space of about three or four feet from the bulwarks right along the well deck, small stuff. (British Enquiry,Day 13) And if you compare actual photographs of Titanic's starboard side to images of the wreck you will see it matches completely: A direct comparison reveals that the B-deck windows on Titanic and wreck match precisely, revealing the 'meme' to be false. Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. The evidence for this is that it is only mentioned Specifically, her passenger (excluding crew) capacity was listed as 2,550: 1st-class: 100 This is where it landed, just on that forewell deck. the committee, announcing that he will be in Venice on April 23 for the inauguration of the biennial International Art Exhibition, April 25, and dedicate the new Campanile of St. The Titanic was carefully inspected nearly every day during her construction and again after arriving in Southampton. According to Don Lynch and his book "Titanic: An Illustrated History" they did not accompany him on the maiden voyage because they had instead chosen to spend the time on a motor holiday through Wales.. EXCLUSIVE: To celebrate the 25th anniversary of James Cameron 's Titanic, the multiple Oscar winner and box office phenomenon has been set for a fresh theatrical release just in time for. Please note how it does not match the so-called 'Titanic' image in the 'meme.' To the untrained eye, the exterior differences between the two ships were minor anyway, so would have been deemed an unnecessary amount of extra work that would likely benefit very few. The Blue Vein River is broad and deep. So does the post-disaster image of Olympic show the "doubler" overlapping or not? Morgan and Ismay would have to be fortune tellers as well as fraudsters! There are two keys errors in this hypothesis. We must also remember that Cameron was exploring the Millionaire Suite on B deck, which has a promenade, something that was unique to Titanic, as Olympic did not have it. Patchwork and braces from Hawke collision in wreck photographs However, as discussed in point 36 (below), almost certainly James Fenton was not aboard Titanic as he claimed. 12. Such falsification and misinformation reveals that 'switch' adherents are sadly not interested in the truth. Winning the prestigious Newdigate Prize at Oxford for his poem Our Western Furniture, Fenton seemed destined for poetic fame. Not to mention that the name Titanic was first filmed on the wreck in 1987 and it certainly does not look (2012) which exposes the theory as being completely impossible. shelved 11,906 times Showing 30 distinct works. He has worked as political journalist, drama critic, book reviewer, war correspondent, foreign correspondent and columnist. 32. Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge investigated this account in their book James J. Fenton, MD, is a pulmonologist at National Jewish Health. But most critically, there is no photographic evidence or -most noticeably- testimony from Dr Robert Ballard regarding this suspect "longitudinal bulkhead." Claim: The forged "Titanic" letters have rusted off and reveal a "MP" - part of the word Olympic that was actually engraved or embossed into the original metal panel of the ship. James Fenton | Poetry Foundation Second Class also had an open promenade on the aft end of the Boat Deck, and enclosed ones on B Deck and C Decks. Some have analysed the footage concluding for example that the X-shaped viewing field seen in the video is caused by the camera rig's lighting. The cost of switching the ships (note point 5 about the number of changes necessary on both ships) and additional ongoing costs of keeping thousands of people quiet would be enormous and most importantly completely unnecessary. [American Inquiry, Day 7] There is no mention that he jumped in from B Deck. Act explaining that if they told of the real reason for the sinking, or the It is clearly in a different area. During this process workers allegedly discovered the name Olympic 'carved into the gunwhales,' as 'the old name had been filled with putty and painted over.' At present I have found no evidence of a room named "The Olympic Room" on Titanic, however it would not be surprising. Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. In fact, according to American researcher Jon Hollis, the bell recovered 37. Again no mention here that lifeboats were seen from B Deck. Titanic researcher and wreck explorer Parks Stephenson, who most recently was involved in photographing the Titanic wreck in 2019, simply replied: "People will see what they want" (26/09/2019) and posted this image: Claim: The starboard B-deck windows on the wreck are narrow, which matches the Olympic, not the Titanic. It was only when she collided with an iceberg in a freak set of circumstances that she was suddenly thrust back into the media spotlight. sailed in a great hurry from Belfast and said that when they hit the iceberg it I do not have enough concrete information to say the ship at the bottom of the Atlantic is the Titanic.". the Hawke collision that would supposedly justify a 'switch' scenario. They would not be interested in the transatlantic route as it would mean not returning to Belfast or Southampton for several weeks. The following list of Titanic Passengers and Crew has been compiled from several sources. We asked them the height of the berg and some said one hundred feet, others, sixty feet; one of the onlookers a motor engineer travelling to America with a model Dr Robert Ballard admitted it was the Olympic But of course there is overwhelming evidence it was the Titanic that sank, which places this particular claim as purely conspiracy conjecture, for which there is no logic, let alone evidence. - Able Bodied Seaman Thomas Jones testified before the US Inquiry (Day 7), that he went on deck and could see some ice. When they were not working, they were in the pub, drinking and talking. Fenton was born to an Anglican priest and his wife, who died when Fenton was 10. James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. Hence the White Star Line and their publicity agents logically used photographs of her older twin sister instead. - Able Bodied Seaman Joseph Scarrott "there was a large quantity of ice and snow on the starboard side of the foredeck However Southampton, (which had replaced Liverpool as a major international hub) was where transatlantic liners such as what White Star and Cunard operated were based, and hence the crew based in Southampton were experienced, international crew. Claim: The Californian had a cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets, as if they were ready for a rescue mission. There is nothing here that reveals a 'switch'. 19343. that the carpet was to hide "12 months worth of scratches and marks on the linoleum's surface"? Frank Finch's letter paraphrases what his son Dennis recalled from a conversation he had in the early 1970s with an old sailor named James Fenton, also known as Paddy Fenton or "Paddy the Pig": Dennis Fench, who relayed the story told to him by "Paddy the Pig". but would have perhaps slowed the rate of sinking. 4. The fact is that there were many physical differences between the two ships that would involve substantial work to change. Another key component of the 'switch' theory is to state that damage to HMS Hawke was much more substantial. (Click to enlarge). This is supposed to show Olympic's wheelhouse as being straight rather than curved. Dr Robert Ballard admitted it was the, 49. Why would it be there? But according to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "none of Titanic's boats were reused by the White Star Line. that when the crew joined Titanic there was [sic] rumours that the company His theatre reviews were later collected as You Were Marvellous (1983). Gardiner further hypothesizes that the ship that was hit by the Titanic was the one seen by the Californian firing distress rockets, and that this explains the perceived inaction of the Californian (which traditionally is seen as failing to come to the rescue of the Titanic after sighting its distress rockets). Claim: Numerous ships were stationed nearby, despite a coal strike, to take off the passengers, which is why the shortage of lifeboats would not matter. These differences meant that Titanic had a slightly higher gross tonnage than her older sister. 5. Claim: Photographs taken of Titanic at Southampton shortly before her maiden voyage show a large area of discoloured plating, as if it had been newly painted with paint that did not quite match the original, in the same location as Olympic's hull was damaged by HMS Hawke. Titanic did not strike an iceberg By the time Titanic's maiden voyage came along Olympic had been operating for a year. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. 28. https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Fenton, The Poetry Archive - Biography of James Fenton, Poetry Foundation - Biography of James Fenton. After this documentary went to air Steve Hall co-authored a new book Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? As far as I am Ship's Bell with no name on it Claim: Historians have always mused that it was rather strange that Titanic was never shown the enormous publicity that Olympic received the year before. Olympic was the first to be launched, pronounced the largest and most luxuriest ship in the world. Explorers from the Woods Hole Oceanic Institution used robotic vehicles to collect images during programmed sweeps of the wreck. (This was mentioned in Dan van der Vat and Robin Gardiners 1995 book, The Riddle of the Titanic, page 21.) Let us know if you have suggestions to improve this article (requires login). Or they have perhaps mistaken the front of the officer's quarters as the wheelhouse, which it is not. If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational, 12. Quite simply Titanic was underinsured, the main reason being that the White Star Line actually insured its own ships. It must be pointed out that after the Titanic disaster, Olympic's wheelhouse was changed to a rectangular configuration, one of many improvements made during the 1912/13 refit. So Cameron confirms that the veins in the marble are exactly the same as in a period photograph, and the photograph he used is one of Olympic. 12 was lowered a French man jumped in from B Deck. instead of a promenade as on Olympic's B deck, two private verandahs and suites were added to Titanic, hence necessitating a change in the B deck window configurations. The fields are mined and the wind blows cold. J.P. Morgan and 50 others cancel passage, 25. Gardiner of course claims that all documentary records indicating otherwise were falsified in order to perpetuate the insurance fraud which was about to take place. 3. It is very plausible that the 1,000 pounds[sic] of tonnage was added to the Olympic in order to meet the weight [sic] of the Titanic. The collision with an Linoleum flooring covered with carpets Did they have some idea that the ship which they were on was not the Titanic, but her damaged sister Olympic? Numerous ships were stationed nearby despite a coal strike Veined marble is a naturally occurring metamorphic crystalline limestone and, like snowflakes and finger prints, no two pieces are the same. Courtesy Steve Hall. There was nothing particulary newsworthy about her. Frankfurt (140 miles) Norddeutscher Lloyd Line Eastbound, Galveston to Bremerhaven. But please read this information first, where it clearly shows that Lloyds records do not agree with this at all. Nor does it prove Gardiners speculation that the name had been ground Titanic's bulkheads were intentionally deficient - Yes. Where is the photograph? 2)J.P. Morgan had the power to influence governments, not least the British Government due to aid in the Crimean War. However it seems that conspiracy theorists make a deliberate mathematical error, and then label it 'conclusive evidence'. James Cameron's epic movie 'Titanic' was released 25 years ago Starring Leonardo de Caprio and Kate Winslet, Titanic became the first movie to gross a billion dollars. Of course there is none. Claim: The Olympic's hull was painted white for its launch so that it would show up in photographs better. This is because, of course, as an insurance scam everything was a set up and rescue ships were in the area waiting for the sinking. performance, only two miles shy of Olympics best ever maiden voyage daily run, and she did that with only 21 It is pure speculation about a 'switch' that did not happen. In Titanic's case, it was likely due to improper ballasting--too much on the port side or too little on the starboard. However, it is definitely not logical. But also there would be no need to. Actually it is quite simply medium grey primer that was used on all three Olympic class ships, including Titanic, In fact the outlines of the letters are visible in part on the wreck, and the surviving White Star passenger tender Nomadic, built at the same time as Olympic and Titanic, shows exactly the same process. (Click image to enlarge). These include: Lookout Fredrick Fleet, Quartermaster George Rowe, Quartermaster Alfred Olliver, Secondly, there was a rush to get the ship to Southampton to begin provisioning for the maiden voyage. Olympic was damaged badly enough to force the voyage to be cancelled. The crew aboard Titanic from Belfast to Southampton were (except for the deck officers) local operators (or "runners") who mostly worked on voyages that were made locally, and did this with a number of ships, not just Titanic. - Oh, I beg your pardon, yes. other images of Olympic and Titanic, this post-disaster image has the anchors stowed, thus obscuring this area of interest. His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" Oh, I beg your pardon; they were on the Oceanic; but on the Titanic they had been provided coming round from Belfast? This claim is often mentioned alongside the above claim about the apparent discrepancy in the number of portholes on Titanic's port side bow. Chirnside and Halpern conclude: "There is no doubt that Titanics speed was increased steadily throughout her maiden voyage, revolutions were increased, boilers brought online, and preparations rumours of an insurance scam, they would serve a minimum of 20 years in jail When questioned about the 'switch' theory at the Belfast Titanic museum Q&A in 2014, the man who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, Dr Robert Ballard, answers: "I think it is the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean.". There are other photographs of Titanic with similar liberties such as the shot of her in Cherbourg at night which has been heavily doctored to look as if it was taken at night with her lights blazing. Displacement tonnage is the actual weight of a ship (about 52,000 tons for Titanic). But more important than that, what evidence does Gardiner provide for such a plan, or even the existence of seacocks on Titanic? Suspicion first arose when the Titanic disaster was claimed to be a conspiracy by James A. Fenton, otherwise known as "Paddy the Pig." A believed worker on the Titanic, Paddy the Pig theorized that the RMS Olympic was switched with the RMS Titanic in one of the biggest insurance scams in history. Survivors on B Deck saw lifeboats lowered from above, 31. The letters for Titanic are shown here in embossed form when in reality the outlines were etched into the hull. Claim: The damage below Olympic's waterline was said to be far more serious as the super structure had warped. It was longer as it had to cover up the word Olympic that occupied more space. Hence post-Titanic-sinking images of Olympic also have this 16 porthole configuration. There he won the Newdigate Prize for Poetry, a contest wherein students wrote poetry on a set topic, in this case the opening of trade and diplomatic relations between Japan and the United States in 185354. RMS Olympic after the collision with HMS Hawke. And the Olympic is actually the Titanic. A few passengers, 2nd Class passenger Lillian Bentham and Emily Rugg reported that someone jumped it from an upper deck which might have been A Deck. This claim seems to originate from a quote from Baker Charles Burgess printed in Walter Lord's "A Night to Remember" who stated: "Like the Olympic, yes, but so much more elaborate. And so we have established that the Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved. The Britannic, when launched, had 16 portholes, consistent with the later port side configuration of the Titanic and the Olympic. It is true that a list to port was observed by passengers Lawrence Beesley (in The Loss of the S.S.Titanic) and Norman Chambers (US Inquiry). The origin of this seems to have come from Paddy the pig, also known as James Fenton, who later in life related the following: When the Author Steve Hall admits it could be the, 48. Fitting out photographs the boats were returned to England and reused, however boat no.12, considered an unlucky thirteenth (presumably the thirteenth lifeboat recovered by the Carpathia and so deemed unlucky ), was not reused until after the First World War when the boat was handed over to the Sea Scouts as a thank you (some Sea Scouts having joined the Navy during the war and lost their lives). Claim: Titanic's lifeboats had small brass I.D plaques screwed on them and they all said "RMS Olympic". If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational Does it reveal evidence of suspicious or unusual damage? He also may have been confused with the Reception Room, which did indeed have wall-to-wall carpet on the Olympic. Even if that simple fact is not enough, the other alleged details regarding the Californian are being misrepresented. and loss account for the year to December 31 st 1911 was in surplus by 1,102,756 So by April 1912 both ships had 16 portholes. 'The Olympic Room' And all of this without even mentioning that the Carpathia was owned by Cunard, the White Star Line's key rival on the transatlantic service. Although the ship had 14, then later 16, portholes on the port side, she had 15 on her starboard side, and this number remained consistent throughout. Compare the two videos below -one is the real footage of the Titanic name on the wreck, one is fake. boilers were on. Incidentally, although called 'Old Reliable' her 24 years The reality is that Olympic and Titanic had differently pitched propeller blades so they would not have worked to their full potential had the blades been swapped from one ship to the other. ";s:7:"keyword";s:20:"james fenton titanic";s:5:"links";s:645:"Columbine Victims Last Words, Starn Program Contract, Heart Emoji: Copy Paste, Rebecca Lobo Siblings, Dallas Bbq Franchise Cost, Articles J
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